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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225846973" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225846973">(Feb 10 2021 at 14:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2943">@T-infra</span> t-8min!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848163">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848233" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848233">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2943">@T-infra</span> meeting time!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848237">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848242">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848255">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848337" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848337">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848408">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, let's start!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848436" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848436">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are no issues we need to triage during the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848524">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>first off <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="117568">@Aidan Hobson Sayers</span> with removing .gz files!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848580" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848580">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes - I have updated the issue with some observations from the generated inventory files <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/80753">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/80753</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848715">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>my intention is to nuke every .gz file in rustc-builds and rustc-builds-alt. I plan to just go ahead and do it todayish (well, start - there are a lot of them...)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848764">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds good!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848824">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I kinda wanted to talk about rustc-builds-alt and the beta .gz files</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225848995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225848995">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>rustc-builds-alt have assertions, nightly does not - <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/45810">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/45810</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849020">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>but...do we know if people actually use these builds?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849119">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>probably almost no one does in practice</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849139">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>because it's pretty undiscoverable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849230">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't recall what crater uses</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849255">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd propose squeezing down the retention time to 30 days</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849332" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849332">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>no it does not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849410" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849410">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>retention for just alt builds?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849463" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849463">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah (going off <a href="https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/updates-on-rusts-ci-uploads/6062">https://internals.rust-lang.org/t/updates-on-rusts-ci-uploads/6062</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849497">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean we could do it for rustc-builds too, I'm up for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849535">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>we definitely don't want to do it for rustc-builds</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849545" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849545">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's used for sure for bisection</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849591" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849591">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, aren't nightlies enough?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849597" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849597">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>that post is outdated in the sense we're currently at 168 days retention iirc</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849649" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849649">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>no nightlies are definitely not enough, we can have anywhere from 10 to ~50 PRs, with rollups, land in a day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849731" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849731">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>ahhh - rollups, yes. I was going on my bisecting experience a number of years back</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849745" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849745">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, ok, 50 is high, 30</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849808">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in any case if we're looking for cost-saving I'd rather shift to e.g. 1-zone or something on these files</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849822">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>(perhaps after 30 days)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849844" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849844">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>out of curiosity, what do you think about eliminating alt builds entirely?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849886" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849886">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>honestly I don't know who actually uses them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849898">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm personally unopposed because AFAIK nothing actually really uses them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849925">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we should just... stop temporarily and see if anyone complains</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225849929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225849929">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>like - I have had use for them in the past, but I didn't even know they existed so did the rebuild myself <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850017">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>how about we stop and post to internals and see if anyone is sad</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850075" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850075">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>well let's post first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850079" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850079">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could inverse the order I guess, post to internals this week and then stop next week or later</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850084">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I'd wait a bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850086">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850087" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850087">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do feel a bit awkward</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850101" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850101">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>in the sense they are <em>good</em></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850110" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850110">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>but just not used</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850129" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850129">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. I'd love to detect in rustup that someone's on CI and use them or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850194" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850194">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we want the general public to use them we should include them in releases though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850201">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>we don't?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850207" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850207">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850221">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>not as far as I'm aware</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850224" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850224">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850237">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>for some reason I thought we did</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850241">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>this is what I mean by "undiscoverable"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850244" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850244">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess not</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850329">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway it definitely seems like there's room to optimize here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850363" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850363">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's unclear it'd save us a lot though - we don't do alt builds for most platforms and storage is relatively cheap</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850386" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850386">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the big saving would be in CI capacity</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850401" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850401">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah that's true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850435" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850435">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>the numbers put it at about 10% of the cost of rustc-builds, so not tiny</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850465">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can make the provocative post on internals</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850469">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was asking about those numbers,  get out of my mind <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="117568">@Aidan Hobson Sayers</span> <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850492" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850492">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>(just going by pure file count)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850563" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850563">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we can regroup in a week or two on this front</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850634" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850634">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>on the beta builds - they're still uploading .gz files? not sure why?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850657">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>we'll stop doing that as soon as <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/81921">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/81921</a> actually lands</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850675" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850675">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>we just never backported that change to beta</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850708" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850708">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>it sounds like a good idea to at least consider shrinking retention on alt builds as a starting point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850754">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>another thing that <em>could</em> be a bit tricky to do but would help a ton would also shrink the retention period for non-tier-1 artifacts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225850963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225850963">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd personally prefer to keep the ability to bisect, including when cross-compiling is necessary</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851202" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851202">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think killing .gz is going to be a big win already</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851203">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't have any other thoughts at this point - I'd see where gz and (possibly) alt removal gets us</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851225" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851225">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, that seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851258" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851258">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, I'd say let's go ahead deleting all <code>.gz</code>s in the bucket, post on internals about who's actually using alt builds and then decide what to do with alt buckets and non-tier-1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851317" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851317">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> await</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851318" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851318">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851521" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851521">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's move to the nex item then!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851539" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851539">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Changes to the email setup</p>
</blockquote>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851589" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851589">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, the foundation wants to use google workspace (formerly gsuite) to manage its own emails and docs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851642" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851642">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>All that work, down the drain /s</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851701">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>and they're going to use the <code>@rust-lang.org</code> domain name too, so we'll have to get foundation mails and project mails to work together</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851857" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851857">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I did a lot of investigation on how to make this work without much disruption over the past couple of days, and I tested that the proposal actually works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225851875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225851875">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wrote it down in <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/February-2021-email-changes--BE4NfgiZpEcSTlYNfD_TLK_TAg-nk8GuoSxbbG9Oq8YJfGlN">https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/February-2021-email-changes--BE4NfgiZpEcSTlYNfD_TLK_TAg-nk8GuoSxbbG9Oq8YJfGlN</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852020">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>the plan I have is in two steps:</p>
<ul>
<li>first, we redirect all mails to google and configure google to proxy unknown addresses over to mailgun (thus keeping the current mailing list setup for the project)</li>
<li>then, we later move the project mailing lists from mailgun to google groups</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852082">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds great</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852265">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>sounds great, yeah.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852434" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852434">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, any opinion on finishing step 1 before the end of the week?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852452" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852452">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I'd love to unblock the foundation's emails ASAP)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852569">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I already tested sending mails to a google address, a mailgun address and a missing address, and everything works fine</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852593" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852593">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>if there are other things you'd like me to test I'm happy to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852675" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852675">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we should do it ~immediately</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852713" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852713">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I fully expect horrible things to happen, because email, but I think you've done awesome due diligence so let's go for it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852928">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok then! I'll coordinate with the foundation to make sure they're ready and then I'm going to pull the switch</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852958">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll also start working on the <code>sync-team</code> integration with google groups</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852991" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852991">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> await</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225852994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225852994">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853246" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853246">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok then! does anyone have other items to bring up? <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853252" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853252">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to bring up?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if you're ready to end the meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853356">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853369">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>great then! have a nice week!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853370" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853370">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> kennytm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853422">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853451" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853451">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>\o</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225853513" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jake Goulding <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225853513">(Feb 10 2021 at 15:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225897809" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225897809">(Feb 10 2021 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="117568">Aidan Hobson Sayers</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10/near/225849844">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>out of curiosity, what do you think about eliminating alt builds entirely?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I was thinking of using alt builds as an alternative to <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/81932">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/81932</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225897849" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225897849">(Feb 10 2021 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>but if they use so much time and storage it's probably not worth it just for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225900628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225900628">(Feb 10 2021 at 20:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>IMO alt builds are a useful exercise, bootstrapping with LLVM assertions and sanity-checking the parallel code, but I don't care about the actual artifacts myself</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225927917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225927917">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> the deletion is ongoing and I wanted to watch numbers zoom down on grafana - but I can't seem to get it to work. should it be? using cloudwatch, us-west-1, s3, bucketsizebytes, bucketname = rust-lang-ci2</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225927990" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225927990">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="117568">@Aidan Hobson Sayers</span> I'm pretty sure those stats are updated daily</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225927994" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225927994">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>or anyway are not real time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225928068" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225928068">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've got no stats for last 30 days <span aria-label="thinking" class="emoji emoji-1f914" role="img" title="thinking">:thinking:</span> I'll raise some issues, there are other oddities I've noticed with our s3 setup as well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225928084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225928084">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>(there's no urgency)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225928191" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225928191">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="117568">@Aidan Hobson Sayers</span> is the aws s3 dashboard not working?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225928212" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225928212">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://grafana.rust-lang.org/d/wJyYhWcZz/aws-s3?orgId=1">https://grafana.rust-lang.org/d/wJyYhWcZz/aws-s3?orgId=1</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225928362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225928362">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I did not know about the s3 dashboard, so that's handy!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225928445" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225928445">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>still, the data is only daily</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting%202021-02-10/near/225929086" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Aidan Hobson Sayers <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/242791-t-infra/topic/meeting.202021-02-10.html#225929086">(Feb 10 2021 at 23:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>huh, the only thing wrong was not filtering by StorageType. so close yet so far. thanks for the help!</p>



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